kupplung problem

[tally]

hallo meine Freundin hat gerade ein 82 XL500 gekauft, die gut läuft, aber die Kupplung benötigt etwas Arbeit, wenn sie im leelauf ist sie sehr steif aber in der Kabelführung beim ziehen ist sie ok und laesst sie frei bewegen folglich ist das Problem innerhalb der Maschine. also denke ich das es der verbogener Kupplung Ventilstößel sein konnten, der das Problem ist. wie es aussieht ist die Seitenverkleidung leicht abzuziehen. wer kann mir weiterhelfen ? Del
( ich bin englaender und habe bei der uebersetzung ins deutsche bestimmt fehler gemacht, daher auch noch mal die englische version) DANKE

hello all
the girlfriend has just bought an 82 XL500 that runs well
but the clutch will need some work
when pulling the leaver in its very stiff but the cable routing is fine and moves freely on its own
hence the problem is inside the engine so im thinking it could be a bent clutch push rod that is the problem
so how easy is it to pull the side cover off as it has some sort of automatic decompressed connected to the kick-starter any help please is most welcome
Del

[Gast]

Hy there,
Maybe the previous owner used stronger springs or put shims under the old ones to preload them during rebuilt of the clutch. This is often done when the clutch begins to slip.
In case you pull the side cover, check the springs and look at the metal disks in the clutch itself. They shouldn´t show colours on their surface (looks like annealed metal...).
Best thing to do is to use new friction plates and use only two stronger springs instead of four...
Another option is to stretch the lever a little bit, let´s say by 50%.
Bub did this for his girlfriend a little while ago. She had trouble with the clutch because the necessary force was to big for her.
The result of a longer lever is a very smooth action and no problems with the way... remember, you trade leverage against way here, so don´t overdo it.
A bent push rod is quite unusual, this is a very massive part! Did you take a look at the exploded view drawings?
Also, during reassembly, make sure to take care of the cam that operates the decompression. If assembled the wrong way, the cam will break. You´ll know how to assemble it by looking at it.. it´s self explaining.

Have fun,
die Oma

[Sherpa]

Hi Del,

it's no problem to pull off the side cover ! You just have to dismantle the footrest and the kickstarter. Then you can hand over the automatic decompressed (you have to loosen the fixed "guidance" on top of the cylinder head and don't forget to adjust the automatic decompressed - the "play" on the decompressed lever must be between 1-2mm). Besides you can put up the cable of the clutch lever. Now you can pull off the side cover.

I hope you understand my english, i had to search for the right words in my dictionary - so i think not all the words i used are right.

So long

P.S.: Would it be better to write you in german?

[Sherpa]

Mann oh mann, bitte löscht meinen Beitrag wieder - ich blamier mich ja...

[tally]

Another option is to stretch the lever a little bit, let´s say by 50%.

A bent push rod is quite unusual, this is a very massive part! Did you take a look at the exploded view drawings?

ok iget what you are saying but i have not seen an exploded picture of the clutch part of the engine yet so please could you send me a link to this
also you refer to bending the leaver back 50%?????
what leaver the hand lever or the one on the engine

thanks Del

[haensle]

Maybe it is easier to meet each other, two have a look of 4 eyes
Where do you live in Berlin.
Greets Karsten

[hbmjka]

ok iget what you are saying but i have not seen an exploded picture of the clutch part of the engine yet so please could you send me a link to this
thanks Del

Hy Del!
Have a look to:

http://www.alttec-classics.de/shop/
Microfiches XL 500 R/S

or:

http://www.hondaxl.it

manuals/english.

Maybe that`s it.
Heinz

[Gast]

Hy Del,
He just made it longer by 50%...gives more leverage --> lower force.

Have fun,
Oma

[volkri]

moin

kann es sein, dass die manual downloads auf www.hondaxl.it micht mehr vorhanden sind?

bin ich zu doof oder haben die copyright-wächter zugeschlagen?

gruß

volker

[volkri]

ok ich bin zu doof

hier sind sie:

http://www.hondaxl.it/manuali.htm

[tally]

Maybe it is easier to meet each other, two have a look of 4 eyes
Where do you live in Berlin.
Greets Karsten

We live in Kreuzberg but i dont have any tools here in germany so maybe it would be better if i bring the bike to you to see what you think

Del